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Monday, June 13, 2011

PZ Myers & Richard Dawkins, London

source: BHA bulletin 13th June 2011

podcast: http://poddelusion.co.uk/blog/2011/06/10/pz-myers-and-richard-dawkins-in-conversation/
Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/BritishHumanists


Science matters


Last week around 1000 people turned out for our event at the Institute of Education to witness an armchair discussion between author and BHA vice-president Richard Dawkins and PZ Myers, American biology professor and the author of the blockbuster science blog Pharyngula.


This was a rare opportunity in the UK to see two leaders in their field pose questions to each other and informally discuss the topics about which they are so articulate and knowledgeable.

When the conversation turned to what evidence the speakers would need to be able to believe in the existence of a god, we felt like conspirators as Myers suggested that if he were to discover something that seems like a god, the scientist in him would want to cut it up and do research to
test it.

The evening ended on a very positive note, with Dawkins being asked how to ensure that young children are able to fully understand the wonder of biology and how we can ensure that they learn about it and be inspired. The conversation which ensued emphasised that we should ensure that children are able to experience all subjects, find the things that they feel passionate about, and be led by their own curiosity.

The whole talk is available as a podcast via BHA partners The Pod Delusion and footage will be made available via the BHA YouTube channel.

Saturday, June 11, 2011

Has Science buried God? Richard Dawkins v John Lennox, October 21st 2008

source: http://richarddawkins.net/audio/3911-richard-dawkins-and-john-lennox-at-the-oxford-university-museum - complete debate (audio)
October 21st 2008: I was there! I've not found the whole video online (Fixed Point Foundation are not selling it??) but there is a 12 minute taster below.

Richard Dawkins and John Lennox at the Oxford University Museum



A field guide to bullshit by Stephen Law

source: http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg21028160.200-a-field-guide-to-bullshit.html?full=true

How do people defend their beliefs in bizarre conspiracy theories or the power of crystals? Philosopher Stephen Law has tips for spotting their strategies
You describe your new book, Believing Bullshit, as a guide to avoid getting sucked into "intellectual black holes". What are they?
Intellectual black holes are belief systems that draw people in and hold them captive so they become willing slaves of claptrap. Belief in homeopathy, psychic powers, alien abductions - these are examples of intellectual black holes. As you approach them, you need to be on your guard because if you get sucked in, it can be extremely difficult to think your way clear again.
But isn't one person's claptrap another's truth?
There's a belief system about water to which we all sign up: it freezes at 0 °C and boils at 100 °C. We are powerfully wedded to this but that doesn't make it an intellectual black hole. That's because these beliefs are genuinely reasonable. Beliefs at the core of intellectual black holes, however, aren't reasonable. They merely appear so to those trapped inside.
You identify some strategies people use to defend black hole beliefs. Tell me about one of them - "playing the mystery card"?
This involves appealing to mystery to get out of intellectual hot water when someone is, say, propounding paranormal beliefs. They might say something like: "Ah, but this is beyond the ability of science and reason to decide. You, Mr Clever Dick Scientist, are guilty of scientism, of assuming science can answer every question." This is often followed by that quote from Shakespeare's Hamlet: "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy". When you hear that, alarm bells should go off.
But even scientists admit that they can't explain everything.
There probably are questions that science cannot answer. But what some people do to protect their beliefs is to draw a veil across reality and say, "you scientists can go up to the veil and apply your empirical methods this far, but no further". Behind the veil they will put angels, aliens, psychic powers, God, ghosts and so on. Then they insist that there are special people who can see - if only dimly - through this veil. But the fact is that many of the claims made about things behind this veil have empirically observable consequences and that makes them scientifically testable.
How can science test these mysteries?
Psychologist Christopher French at Goldsmiths, University of London, ran an experiment into the effects of crystals to explore claims that holding "real" crystals from a New Age shop while meditating has a powerful effect on the psyche, more so than just holding "fake" ones. But French found no difference in participants using real and fake crystals. This was good evidence that the effect people report is down to the power of suggestion, not the crystals.
Of course, this study provoked comments such as: "Not being able to prove the existence of something does not disprove its existence. Much is yet to be discovered." This is just a smokescreen. But because the mantra "it's-beyond-the-ability-of-science-to-establish..." gets repeated so often, it is effective at lulling people back to sleep - even if they have been stung into entertaining a doubt for a moment or two.
Do you think mystery has a place in science?
Some things may be beyond our understanding, and sometimes it's reasonable to appeal to mystery. If you have excellent evidence that water boils at 100°C, but on one occasion it appeared it didn't, it's reasonable to attribute that to some mysterious, unknown factor. It's also reasonable, when we have a theory that works but we don't know how it works, to say that this is currently a mystery. But the more we rely on mystery to get us out of intellectual trouble, or the more we use it as a carpet under which to sweep inconvenient facts, the more vulnerable we are to deceit, by others and by ourselves.
In your book you also talk about the "going nuclear" tactic. What is this?
When someone is cornered in an argument, they may decide to get sceptical about reason. They might say: "Ah, but reason is just another faith position." I call this "going nuclear" because it lays waste to every position. It brings every belief - that milk can make you fly or that George Bush was Elvis Presley in disguise - down to the same level so they all appear equally "reasonable" or "unreasonable". Of course, you can be sure that the moment this person has left the room, they will continue to use reason to support their case if they can, and will even trust their life to reason: trusting that the brakes on their car will work or that a particular drug is going to cure them.
Isn't there a grain of truth in this approach?
There is a classic philosophical puzzle about how to justify reason: to do so, it seems you have to use reason. So the justification is circular - a bit like trusting a second-hand car salesman because he says he's trustworthy. But the person who "goes nuclear" isn't genuinely sceptical about reason. They are just raising a philosophical problem as a smokescreen, to give them time to leave with their head held high, saying: "So my belief is as reasonable as yours." That's intellectually dishonest.
You say we should also be aware of the "but it fits" strategy. Why?
Any theory, no matter how ludicrous, can be squared with the evidence, given enough ingenuity. Every last anomaly can be explained away. There is a popular myth about science that if you can make your theory consistent with the evidence, then that shows it is confirmed by that evidence - as confirmed as any other theory. Lots of dodgy belief systems exploit this myth. Young Earth creationism - the view that the whole universe is less than 10,000 years old - is a good example. Given enough shoehorning and reinterpretation, you can make whatever turns up "fit" what the Bible says.
What about when people claim that they "just know" something is right?
Suppose I look out the window and say: "Hey, there's Ted." You say: "It can't be Ted because he's on holiday." I reply: "Look, I just know it's Ted." Here it might be reasonable for you to take my word for it.
But "I just know" also gets used when I present someone with good evidence that there are, say, no auras, angels or flying saucers, and they respond: "Look, I just know there are." In such cases, claiming to "just know" is usually very unreasonable indeed.
What else should we watch out for?
You should be suspicious when people pile up anecdotes in favour of their pet theory, or when they practise the art of pseudo-profundity - uttering seemingly profound statements which are in fact trite or nonsensical. They often mix in references to scientific theory to sound authoritative.
Why does it matter if we believe absurd things?
It can cause no great harm. But the dangers are obvious when people join extreme cults or use alternative medicines to treat serious diseases. I am particularly concerned by psychological manipulation. For charlatans, the difficulty with using reason to persuade is that it's a double-edged sword: your opponent may show you are the one who is mistaken. That's a risk many so-called "educators" aren't prepared to take. If you try using reason to persuade adults the Earth's core is made of cheese, you will struggle. But take a group of kids, apply isolation, control, repetition, emotional manipulation - the tools of brainwashing - and there's a good chance many will eventually accept what you say.

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Stephen Law is senior lecturer in philosophy at Heythrop College, University of London, and editor of the Royal Institute of Philosophy journal, Think. His latest book is Believing Bullshit: How not to get sucked into an intellectual black hole
Issue 2816 of New Scientist magazine
  • From issue 2816 of New Scientist magazine, page 28-29.

Friday, June 10, 2011

Dublin Declaration on Secularism and the Place of Religion in Public Life

source: http://www.atheist.ie/2011/06/dublin-declaration-on-secularism-and-the-place-of-religion-in-public-life/


Dublin Declaration on Secularism and the Place of Religion in Public Life

On Sunday 5 June 2011, the World Atheist Convention in Dublin discussed and adopted the following declaration on secularism and the place of religion in public life. Please discuss and promote it with your friends and colleagues, and if you are a a member of an atheist, humanist or secular group, please discuss and promote it with your fellow members, and with the media and politicians.

1. Personal Freedoms

(a) Freedom of conscience, religion and belief are private and unlimited. Freedom to practice religion should be limited only by the need to respect the rights and freedoms of others.
(b) All people should be free to participate equally in the democratic process.
(c) Freedom of expression should be limited only by the need to respect the rights and freedoms of others. There should be no right ‘not to be offended’ in law. All blasphemy laws, whether explicit or implicit, should be repealed and should not be enacted.

2. Secular Democracy

(a) The sovereignty of the State is derived from the people and not from any god or gods.
(b) The only reference in the constitution to religion should be an assertion that the State is secular.
(c) The State should be based on democracy, human rights and the rule of law. Public policy should be formed by applying reason, and not religious faith, to evidence.
(d) Government should be secular. The state should be strictly neutral in matters of religion and its absence, favouring none and discriminating against none.
(e) Religions should have no special financial consideration in public life, such as tax-free status for religious activities, or grants to promote religion or run faith schools.
(f) Membership of a religion should not be a basis for appointing a person to any State position.
(g) The law should neither grant nor refuse any right, privilege, power or immunity, on the basis of faith or religion or the absence of either.

3. Secular Education

(a) State education should be secular. Religious education, if it happens, should be limited to education about religion and its absence.
(b) Children should be taught about the diversity of religious and nonreligious philosophical beliefs in an objective manner, with no faith formation in school hours.
(c) Children should be educated in critical thinking and the distinction between faith and reason as a guide to knowledge. Science should be taught free from religious interference.

4. One Law For All

(a) There should be one secular law for all, democratically decided and evenly enforced, with no jurisdiction for religious courts to settle civil matters or family disputes.
(b) The law should not criminalise private conduct because the doctrine of any religion deems such conduct to be immoral, if that private conduct respects the rights and freedoms of others.
(c) Employers or social service providers with religious beliefs should not be allowed to discriminate on any grounds not essential to the job in question.

Sunday, May 08, 2011

The Big Question - Is the Bible still relevant?

source: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0114q4t/The_Big_Questions_Series_4_Episode_15/ (7 days left to view this 1 hour debate, from 8 May 2011) - Series 4, Episode 15.

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To commemorate the 400th anniversary of the publication of the King James Bible, the programme debates just one topic: is the Bible still relevant? Contributing their views from the panel are: the Right Reverend Michael Nazir Ali, the former Bishop of Rochester; the scientist and atheist campaigner, Professor Richard Dawkins; Rabbi Laura Janner-Klausner from the North Western Reform Synagogue; and the Bible scholar Dr Francesca Stavrakopoulou, who presented the BBC Two series, The Bible's Buried Secrets.

My highly selective summary of the debate:-

Nicky Campbell (NC) (Presenter): Is anything in the bible historical fact?
Francesca Stavrakopoulou (FS), Bible Scholar, Exeter University: Very little probably is fact in the bible. Ancient writers had a different understanding of what a fact or what fiction was, compared to us today. It wasn't written to be a factual account of the past. As a historian of the bible I think there was very little that was factual. (2:25) David and Moses were not factual but most scholars would agree that Jesus existed. A sophisticated collection (not a hodgepodge) of ancient literature, creative writers, brilliant stuff. How do you know when to read something as history or something as not history? (7:15)

Rabbi Laura Janner-Klausner (LJK) (North Western Reform Synagogue)

NC: There are Greek myths. They don't need to be true to derive truths from them.
Richard Dawkins (RD): Richard Dawkins (Evolutionary Biologist & Humanist / Atheist): The world is full of creation myths and myths of all kinds. Many of these myths are very beautiful. Everybody knows something about the Greek and Valhalla myths and Aboriginal myths -  they are interesting. I don't think there are many truths in any of the myths. (9:20) But the Bible myths today are given a privileged position over other myths (which are not very much use anyway). If you looking for god, why not Zeus or Jupiter or Thor? Sophisticated theologians and historians don't think the bible is true but 45% of USA people literally believe in Adam and Eve and that world is only 6000 years old.

RD: About the New Testament, why didn't god just forgive mankinds sins, why did god have to sacrifice his son? Isn't that the most disgusting idea you've ever heard? The criterion we choose to pick the good stories in the bible are that we are all decent human beings. We reject those aspects of the bible which are horrible

We cherry-pick the bible! "Why bother with the bible? How do you know what are the good ideas and the bad ideas in the Bible? So don't live by the book. Why not bypass the bible altogether as a source of moral authority (34:47) - you can get it from Dickens, Milton, Shakespeare, anybody in literature!, moral philosophers, science today etc etc; We should not just be discussing the bible, we should be discussing whether all literature is relevant to decide what todays morals should be. Those that wrote the bible, were ignorant (lacking knowledge- knowledge that was plain wrong, not pejorative), desert dwelling scribes (48:00) Nothing special about the bible - could listen to Confuscious or modern philosophers or scientists.

Francesca Stavrakopoulou (Theology & Religion Senior Lecturer): You don't need a book of any description to help you have some moral awareness (44:28); Most of the monotheistic religions advocate treat people fairly and decently - but that's what humanists would say - you don't need religion here.

Guy Otten (Greater Manchester Humanists) recommends AC Grayling - The Good Book as todays Humanist / Secular updated version of the bible. Morals have NOT developed from the bible, it comes from our evolutionary background and we've been developing it. (39:25) The Human Rights Convention developed in the last 60 years is a much more advanced moral document than anything you find in the bible.

Right Reverend Michael Nazir Ali, the former Bishop of Rochester, the bible is the moral guide that has led to, god implanted the moral sense in every human.

Rt Rev. Stephen Lowe (Anglican Bishop): Look at the bible a fresh today in 2011 not as it was written 2011 years ago.

The Good Book: A Secular Bible, AC Grayling, The 10 injunctions

source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/today/hi/today/newsid_9446000/9446287.stm


The 10 atheist commandments

Philosopher AC Grayling has put together an alternative, secular Good Book for atheists to use in place of the Christian Bible. Peter Donaldson reads an extract from the book, a kind of atheists' 10 Commandments.
Shall we ask by what commandments shall we live, or might we better ask, each of ourselves, what kind of person should I be. The first question assumes there is one right answer, the second assumes that there are many right answers. If we ask how to answer the second question, we are answered in yet other questions. What should you do when you see another suffering, afraid or hungry? What causes are worthy? What world do you dream of where your child plays safely in the street? There are many such questions, some already are there own answers, some are unanswerable. But when all the answers to all the questions are summed together, no one hears less than this:-
  1. love well
  2. seek the good in all things
  3. harm no others
  4. think for yourself
  5. take responsibility
  6. respect nature
  7. do your utmost
  8. be informed
  9. be kind
  10. be courageous
At least, sincerely try. 


Add to these 10 injunctions, this:- Oh! friends, let us always be true to ourselves and to the best in things, so we can always be true to one another.